Jay began the discussion by comparing a complex mechanical, electrical, hydraulic, computerized machine to a seemingly simple human finger. When damaged, the finger is designed to repair itself. The skin can grown back together. The nerves re-knit, and the blood vessels reconnect to provide nourishment. Obviously the design of the molecular biological system of the human finger is far more complex than the sophisticated piece of man made machinery.
A similar analogy was then made with common parts of machinery and the genetics of various species of animals. Machines that appear to be very similar may have significantly different parts, and machines that look vary different may share many common parts. Such is also the case with the genes of various species. The concept of “speciation” simply points to an intelligent Creator God.
2) Information Theory
Information, to be useful, requires the following processes:
1. Identify Need or Desire
2. Articulate the Need or Desire
3. Transmit the Need or Desire
4. Receive the Need or Desire
5. Respond to the Need or Desire
The concept of information/communication obviously requires an intelligent Author. Many molecular biological functions utilize these “information processes” in order to function.
a) Information Theory – The prime example of information theory at work.
b) The Aspect Ratio – Ever try to store an
8000 mile long rope without getting it tangled?
c) Genes – A single mutant gene can adversely affect multiple organs and tissues
d) Genes – Mutations are prone to occur in
“hotspots” of the
4) Viruses – The same laws of
probability that allow viruses to mutate constantly into other viruses
are the exact same laws that prevent this from happening in more complex
forms of life. A very simple analogy of
this principle could be made with the letters of the alphabet. If we were to “mutate” one letter in the word
“BAT” we could spell “RAT” which is another animal. Or we could even spell the word “
5) Antibiotic Resistance – Bacteria that become “antibiotic resistant” are not necessarily “better” bacteria. They may “appear” to have become better because they make us sicker. BUT – from the perspective of the bacteria, these mutations are “neutral” at best and are often detrimental to their normal cellular functions – ie they actually become a crippled organism.
Each idea was presented with technical documentation, illustrations, and some humorous analogies.
February, 2007 – Canceled due to snow.
March, 2007 – Russ Miller
We had an interesting presentation by Russ Miller at the March 13 creation meeting. He gave much information concerning various aspects of origins, and showing the untruths in textbooks and school science teaching.
He quoted prominent evolutionists which revealed their anti-religious motives for promoting unopposed Darwinism. Russ believes it is very important that young people learn evidence for creation and fallacies of evolution theory. A recent Barna poll revealed 81% of youth leave church before age 22. Russ thinks this is in large part due to evolutionary indoctrination.
Included in the talk were significant findings that contradict earlier
claims by evolutionists. The coelacanth
was believed to be extinct for 70 million years and to be an important link
between fish and amphibians. However, living specimens of this fish have been
found in various places, and they are almost identical to those allegedly 300
million years old, and studies show they are not a missing link. Russ also showed that Archaeopteryx, a famous
supposed transitional fossil, is very similar to present birds living in
jungles. A much more modern type bird
fossil has been found that supposedly lived many millions of years before
Archaeopteryx. Various scientists now believe the
April, 2007 – Dr. C. Richman
Dr. Charmaine Richman led a fascinating discussion on world view and origins. Obviously our world view is greatly impacted by our view of origins! This was a lively discussion, however, as with any “open discussion” forum; opinions with no supporting basis or facts can easily be interjected by those in attendance. The Frederick Creation Society adheres to a Biblically and scientifically based view of origins and does not endorse some of the faithless unscientific comments interjected at this meeting.
May, 2007 – Dr. R. Scovner and Dr. S. Christiansen
Frederick Creation Society meeting on Tuesday, May 8 was about the
marvelous complexity and design of
human reproduction, development and birth. We
saw segments of a VCR, "The Miracle of Life"
A woman's ovaries release one egg a month for about 35 years. This cell, as well as sperm, contains half the chromosomes of all other type cells, Haploid). The egg, the size of a grain of sand, moves through the fallopian tube to the uterus by muscle contractions and cilia which, as stated in the VCR, are the same as bacterial flagella, showing this amazing device has originated separately in various creatures. Even once seems impossible by any known or speculated natural method.
About 400 billion sperm are produced by the testis in a man's life. These cells consist mainly of a nucleus, tail, and fuel packs. Because they are haploid, they are perceived as foreign invaders, and attacked by the immune system, but large 'nurse cells" protect, nourish and move them toward torage tubules. During sexual activity, they travel from the testis into ducts, through which they swim vigorously and enter the urinary tract where they mix with simultaneously released protective alkaline fluid from the prostate, high energy sugar from the seminal vesicles and lubrication fluid from Cowpers Glands.
Further amazing motion and still pictures followed egg and sperm until fertilization. When sperm are formed, enzymes on the head are covered by a protective cap, but after a hard trip, the cap wears off as the sperm nears the egg, and the enzymes make a path through the nutritive layer around the egg. After one sperm penetrates the egg, immediately the egg cell membrane changes and no more sperm can enter. The sperm head bursts and the egg and sperm chromosomes pair up to form the full number of 46. As seen on the video, soon the fertilized egg starts dividing without increasing in size, and then develops and enlarges until, at 9 months, a baby is delivered.
program then featured Dr. Sandy Christiansen,
The work of the pregnancy centers was discussed.
2007 we had a very interesting talk by Lou Reinagel
on "Ancient Giantism." Lou has a B.S. in Physics and M.S. in
Education, and has taught science in schools and a college. He lived in
Fossils and historical reports give evidence that in ancient times many life forms were much larger than those today, some of which were otherwise very similar to present species. It is likely these were more robust and lived longer than current plants and animals. We saw fossils and drawings based on these, including a 6 foot beaver, a 90 foot shark and dragon flies with 2 foot wing spans, as well as giant plants and trees. Drawings showed human skeletons 11 to 13 feet tall. The Bible speaks in several passages of giant men.
The abundant and probably more nutritious vegetation, together with a healthier climate and fewer mutations, likely fostered large numbers and size of animals. Scientists generally agree there was significantly greater atmospheric pressure, oxygen and CO2 levels in ancient days. Hyperbaric chambers with high oxygen pressure induce rapid healing of wounds and other medical problems. Very large plants result if grown in experimental high concentrations of CO2.
The creation group discussed possible causes of environmental changes and decreased vitality of living forms. The Biblical Flood with its atmospheric and climate changes, was proposed as a major factor.
In our July ‘07 creation society meeting the
The eruption, witnessed and documented by many people, portrayed the
tremendous power of catastrophic earth events and resulted in geological
changes unimagined by previous theories.
The explosion on that day was equal to thirty three thousand atomic
bombs. This force and huge amounts of
earth, water and steam destroyed much of
Multiple layers of sediment were formed in hours or days that according to
most traditional explanations would have been thought due to millions of years
of gradual sedimentation. Canyons, one
600 feet deep with features similar to Grand Canyon, were cut through new soft
and old hard rock in days. Floating
trees eventually settled upright into multiple levels, which was very similar
in appearance to the
Fifty seven people lost their lives on that day. All were adequately warned. The same is true with our salvation through Jesus Christ. We must all heed those warnings and accept His gift of eternal life with Him!
In August 2007 we had presentations
of a variety of subjects. A brief video from
Bob Scovner talked about studies and statements by evolutionists which strongly challenge evolution or support creation.
String theory is a postulate about the basic nature of matter that has been widely accepted. It is now considered by notable physicists as a speculative idea with no supporting physical evidence, and which according to Wolfgang Pauli "can't be tested and therefore is not science."
The postulate has been
used to support the multiverse
idea which is used as a way of explaining away evidence for intelligent
design found in the precise strengths of physical
forces necessary for our universe and life to exist. See
an article in Time magazine
The actual difference between genes of chimpanzees and humans may be about 6 %. -Human Genome Organization Meeting, November 2003. Even the previous estimate of about 1% difference is incompatible with the believed rate of mutations and the number of years assumed for the present divergence of the genes.
Studies of archaebacteria and eubacteria (true bacteria) genes have led to "one of the biggest enigmas in Biology." It is believed eukaryotes, (cells with nuclei), evolved from archaebacteria (which still exist, and according to evolutionists are the earliest known form of life), but this as well as more recent explanations are very inadequate speculations about the origin of eukaryotes. -Nature, April 26, 07, Science, May 17, 06.
Soft tissues such as blood vessels, blood cells and muscles have been found in supposed 60 to 90 million year old dinosaur and other ancient fossils, which seem impossible in light of accepted scientific views that such tissues can last at most about 40 thousand years.
Studies of the "Lucy" fossil and Homo Habilis, for many years considered as being in the evolutionary lineage of humans, have shown that these are doubtful at best as human ancestors.
Beaver fossils, allegedly over 160 million years old, flying mammals thought to be 125 million years old, and a large dog like mammal with dinosaur bones in it's stomach have seriously overturned previous ideas of when these creatures first appeared on earth.
Chirality is the
phenomenon that some molecules have right and left handed forms. This
is a seemingly intractable problem for purely naturalistic
theories of the origin of life. In living organisms, all amino
acids are left handed and all
Many explanations have been proposed, but William Bonner, acclaimed as the leading world expert on chirality, stated, "Terrestrial explanations are impotent and non-viable." (I add that outer space origins are highly speculative.)
Hibernation genes are now believed to exist in
all mammals, although they are active only in bears, squirrels and a few
Huge volumes of bacteria and other one celled
creatures live in rocks down to 1500 or more deep. -
References and articles are available on these issues from the creation society.
On September 11, William Hoffman
gave a talk with the intriguing title, "Evolution is a Fact! A Creationists Proof of Evolution." Mr. Hoffman has a Masters in Public Health
and Research Epidemiology, is President of Public Health Research Laboratories,
owner of Research Epidemiology Geographic Software, and is Assistant Adjunctive
Professor of Public Health at
Evolution was shown by pictures of man made devices. The paper clip was invented thousands of years ago, and modified many times since. Many changes in automobiles were also shown. These improved inventions were the result of intelligent design.
The speaker thinks viruses changed from harmless into invasive destructive
structures. Many viruses are very
intricate. He showed pictures of viruses
that look like elaborate syringes. They have pod like structures that attach to
a cells membrane, a sharp piercing device, and a plunger which injects viral
Mr. Hoffman believes viruses became pathogens from changes which might be due to an evil influence in the world, which he did not specify. (As an addendum, the writer of this report has heard and read of major diseases for which infectious agents are known or suspected of playing a significant role, including peptic ulcers, coronary vascular disease, diabetes, arthritis and schizophrenia.)
At the beginning of the program,
we showed part of a
Oct. 2007 - Dr Charles Jackson
In October, 2007 Dr. Charles Jackson gave a detailed talk entitled, "The Demise of Darwinism in 2007." He discussed scientific findings and claims by evolutionists that rebut major parts of neo-Darwinism. Also, he presented novel, non-Darwinian explanations for evolution.
A major discovery is the presence protein soft tissue in various dinosaur fossils, some supposedly 80 millions years old. Microscopic examination showed fresh looking muscle, bone and red blood cells. Crinoid fossils, supposedly 350 million years old, have pigments which likely are proteins. However, it is widely agreed that proteins can last no more than 40,000 years. This is a significant problem for fossil dating.
The status of
almost all alleged ancestors of man have been
seriously questioned, if not abandoned in recent years. Among these are
Homo Habilis, Homos Erectus
and "Lucy." Dr. Donald Johansen, famous
paleontologist said in 1995, "Nobody
really places any faith in any human phylogenetic
Dr. Jackson spoke about prominent
evolutionists who dispute major facets of Darwinism. One of these, Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz, Anthropology
professor at the
Steven Wolfram, a noted innovator, claimed in a long awaited book, A New Kind of Science, that the universe is based on mathematical patterns. For example, Fibernaci numbers (please google) observed in the universe and life. Implications are: either mathematical equations existed before the universe, or evolved. The former alternative likely upsets mainline scientists who generally have written off his book.
Roger Lewin, Science, 217, 1982 wrote, "Natural selection can weed out some of the complexity and slow down information decay that results in speciation. It may have a stabilizing effect but it does not promote speciation. It is not a creative force as many people have suggested."
Much more information was presented in this
talk. In summary, core beliefs of
Darwinian evolution, such as gradual change by mutation and
natural selection, are being disputed by prominent evolutionists. We
In November 2007 we showed parts of a video Incredible Creatures that Defy Evolution 1, mostly about the Bombardier Beetle. After that we discussed issues about creation.
Archaeologist Gary Byers presented the results of his
studies on the route taken by Moses when he led the Israelites
There are many towns and other geographical sites mentioned in the book of Exodus some of which are shown on modern and ancient maps. Some are detected with modern high altitude photography. A detailed account on this topic is in Bible and Spade Magazine, 2006 winter and spring issues. These can be loaned from the creation society. There is significant debate among Bible believing scholars on this topic.
Mr. Byers founded